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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by John Quincy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Quincy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am still amazed at how some CIOs are fooled by the lure of &#039;agile&#039;. They have absolutely no clue as to the permanent wounds that will be left in an organization once the genie is unleashed. Fantastic developers become disgruntled coders. Lazy coders become... well actually they stay the same. And mediocre programmers become lazy coders. 

Check out this hilarious video as to why a CIO would even consider agile in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvks70PD0Rs

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still amazed at how some CIOs are fooled by the lure of &#8216;agile&#8217;. They have absolutely no clue as to the permanent wounds that will be left in an organization once the genie is unleashed. Fantastic developers become disgruntled coders. Lazy coders become&#8230; well actually they stay the same. And mediocre programmers become lazy coders. </p>
<p>Check out this hilarious video as to why a CIO would even consider agile in the first place.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://elsewhat.com/2010/05/20/lazy-developers-hate-agile-and%c2%a0scrum/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/nvks70PD0Rs/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting a two dimensional array of ints to jpg image in Java by dparnas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dparnas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easiest would be to convert your 1d array into a 2d array.
See for example http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5134555/how-to-convert-a-1d-array-to-2d-array]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easiest would be to convert your 1d array into a 2d array.<br />
See for example <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5134555/how-to-convert-a-1d-array-to-2d-array" rel="nofollow">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5134555/how-to-convert-a-1d-array-to-2d-array</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Converting a two dimensional array of ints to jpg image in Java by pramod</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sir would u mind to tell me how to convert a 1 d array of integers into jpeg image. sir pls reply asap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir would u mind to tell me how to convert a 1 d array of integers into jpeg image. sir pls reply asap</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference is that Anyone implies the possibility and everyone is the certainty.

You created this abhorrent video, and now you are trying to blame me by nitpicking a sentence.

You&#039;re also completely incorrect that there are &quot;4 antipatterns in one sentence&quot; ... POSSIBLY there is ONE if you (misread) what anyone means.

I think I&#039;ve made all the points that can be made here; I have no need to convince you of anything nor do I need to convince you of anything.

You stubbornly refuse to believe even the dictionary in this case.

Jordan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is that Anyone implies the possibility and everyone is the certainty.</p>
<p>You created this abhorrent video, and now you are trying to blame me by nitpicking a sentence.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also completely incorrect that there are &#8220;4 antipatterns in one sentence&#8221; &#8230; POSSIBLY there is ONE if you (misread) what anyone means.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve made all the points that can be made here; I have no need to convince you of anything nor do I need to convince you of anything.</p>
<p>You stubbornly refuse to believe even the dictionary in this case.</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by dparnas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dparnas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never claimed everyone and anyone are synonyms, just that the meaning you are conveying with the sentence is the same regardless of which of these word you used. (though everyone implies a bit more empiricial evidence than anyone)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone who is a good developer and effective at what they do is going to hate scrum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see no other interpretation on that statement than:
If you are a developer and good at it, you hate scrum

If you have a different interpretation, please come with it. 

With the above statement you&#039;re also implying that:
If you are a developer and like scrum, you&#039;re not a good developer.

This in the same way as I might be interpreted to imply that;if you are a developer and like scrum, you&#039;re not a lazy developer (something which is not an intended meaning and one of the reasons why I included &quot;why lazy developers &lt;strong&gt;might&lt;/strong&gt;fear and hate agile and scrum&quot; in the youtube description).

There really should be a respected unbiased survey on the correlation of developer performance and fondness of scrum methodology. Untill then I guess we&#039;ll never agree]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never claimed everyone and anyone are synonyms, just that the meaning you are conveying with the sentence is the same regardless of which of these word you used. (though everyone implies a bit more empiricial evidence than anyone)</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone who is a good developer and effective at what they do is going to hate scrum.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see no other interpretation on that statement than:<br />
If you are a developer and good at it, you hate scrum</p>
<p>If you have a different interpretation, please come with it. </p>
<p>With the above statement you&#8217;re also implying that:<br />
If you are a developer and like scrum, you&#8217;re not a good developer.</p>
<p>This in the same way as I might be interpreted to imply that;if you are a developer and like scrum, you&#8217;re not a lazy developer (something which is not an intended meaning and one of the reasons why I included &#8220;why lazy developers <strong>might</strong>fear and hate agile and scrum&#8221; in the youtube description).</p>
<p>There really should be a respected unbiased survey on the correlation of developer performance and fondness of scrum methodology. Untill then I guess we&#8217;ll never agree</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note the difference between:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone

Note also that they do not list the two words as synonyms.

I don’t think you as a Dutch should spend any time lecturing me on correct English.

Look forward to your apology.

Jordan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the difference between:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone</a></p>
<p>Note also that they do not list the two words as synonyms.</p>
<p>I don’t think you as a Dutch should spend any time lecturing me on correct English.</p>
<p>Look forward to your apology.</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note the difference between:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone

Note also that they do not list the two words as synonyms.

I don&#039;t think you as s Dutch should spend any time lecturing me on correct English.

Look forward to your apology.

Jordan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the difference between:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/everyone</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyone</a></p>
<p>Note also that they do not list the two words as synonyms.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you as s Dutch should spend any time lecturing me on correct English.</p>
<p>Look forward to your apology.</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by dparnas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dparnas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Most projects that I have seen fail do not fail because the team wasn’t committed or was wasting time. Most of the projects I see fail are due to not getting the market right, not enough budget, ineffective marketing, etc….

Things which Scrum does NOT address, at least not at the dev team level, other than vaugely alluding to that these problems should be solved somehow….&lt;/blockquote&gt;
On this we definitively agree on. The process of going from a project organisation where the project has most of the responsibilty on direction and changing that to point to a Product owner from the line organisation which now is responsible is a big leap that should not be taken lightly. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;I plan on blogging about that in depth in terms of my conclusions from that article, look for it on my blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Looking forward to read your views.



&lt;blockquote&gt;
And those people should have been weeded out prior to adopting Scrum. This should have been visible already. Hence one can and probably should assume that these people were weeded out, hence there is no need in Scrum to weed these people out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In my experience they have not been weeded out, because it is not that visible what each person does. Scrum does improve transparency, but tells you little about what to do with the issues that surface.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone who is a good developer and effective at what they do is going to hate scrum.
Oh? Which four? I said “Anyone” not “Everyone”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
From my knowledge of english, the semantics of this sentence is the same whether you use Anyone or Everyone. 
As for which anti-patterns you&#039;ve used here I would say:
1) Grandstanding
2) Firebreathing - Demonizing the opposition
4) Wanton Disregard of the Facts
7) Demanding Proof of others but supplying none themselves


Just read a related paper &quot;
Introducing Scrum in Companies in Norway:  A Case Study&quot; which matches my personal experience quite well. 
http://proceedings.informingscience.org/InSITE2010/InSITE10p331-351Brekkan794.pdf

Here is one related quote
&quot;The developers that were interviewed all stated that their working environment had improved after Scrum implementation. Different aspects of Scrum were mentioned as factors that contributed 
to this improvement and we found that several of the interviewees related this improvement to 
team work, that is, co-operation with others gave satisfaction and that the team could organize 
they work according to own decisions. In addition predictability of what they were going to work 
with and fewer interruptions from other people played an important role&quot;

It might be that the Scandinavian mindset/culture is more suitable to scrum than other countries, but I doubt it is that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most projects that I have seen fail do not fail because the team wasn’t committed or was wasting time. Most of the projects I see fail are due to not getting the market right, not enough budget, ineffective marketing, etc….</p>
<p>Things which Scrum does NOT address, at least not at the dev team level, other than vaugely alluding to that these problems should be solved somehow….</p></blockquote>
<p>On this we definitively agree on. The process of going from a project organisation where the project has most of the responsibilty on direction and changing that to point to a Product owner from the line organisation which now is responsible is a big leap that should not be taken lightly. </p>
<blockquote><p>I plan on blogging about that in depth in terms of my conclusions from that article, look for it on my blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>Looking forward to read your views.</p>
<blockquote><p>
And those people should have been weeded out prior to adopting Scrum. This should have been visible already. Hence one can and probably should assume that these people were weeded out, hence there is no need in Scrum to weed these people out.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my experience they have not been weeded out, because it is not that visible what each person does. Scrum does improve transparency, but tells you little about what to do with the issues that surface.</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone who is a good developer and effective at what they do is going to hate scrum.<br />
Oh? Which four? I said “Anyone” not “Everyone”.</p></blockquote>
<p>From my knowledge of english, the semantics of this sentence is the same whether you use Anyone or Everyone.<br />
As for which anti-patterns you&#8217;ve used here I would say:<br />
1) Grandstanding<br />
2) Firebreathing &#8211; Demonizing the opposition<br />
4) Wanton Disregard of the Facts<br />
7) Demanding Proof of others but supplying none themselves</p>
<p>Just read a related paper &#8221;<br />
Introducing Scrum in Companies in Norway:  A Case Study&#8221; which matches my personal experience quite well.<br />
<a href="http://proceedings.informingscience.org/InSITE2010/InSITE10p331-351Brekkan794.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://proceedings.informingscience.org/InSITE2010/InSITE10p331-351Brekkan794.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here is one related quote<br />
&#8220;The developers that were interviewed all stated that their working environment had improved after Scrum implementation. Different aspects of Scrum were mentioned as factors that contributed<br />
to this improvement and we found that several of the interviewees related this improvement to<br />
team work, that is, co-operation with others gave satisfaction and that the team could organize<br />
they work according to own decisions. In addition predictability of what they were going to work<br />
with and fewer interruptions from other people played an important role&#8221;</p>
<p>It might be that the Scandinavian mindset/culture is more suitable to scrum than other countries, but I doubt it is that simple.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lazy developers hate agile and scrum by Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also FYI re &quot;Waterfall project also melt down if no one update the initial plans or the requirement specification as changes happen, but we don’t go around critizing waterfall because of that. &quot;

Of course you do. Maybe not you personally but certainly the Scrum Agile crowd does. That is there drumbeat, the holy war. They pretend that &quot;waterfall&quot; can&#039;t adapt to change and that&#039;s why the world needs Scrum.

If it is fair to blame waterfall for overplanning, it is fair to blame scrum for overmeeting, underplanning, and micromanaging the dev team.

Most projects that I have seen fail do not fail because the team wasn&#039;t committed or was wasting time. Most of the projects I see fail are due to not getting the market right, not enough budget, ineffective marketing, etc.... 

Things which Scrum does NOT address, at least not at the dev team level, other than vaugely alluding to that these problems should be solved somehow....

Jordan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also FYI re &#8220;Waterfall project also melt down if no one update the initial plans or the requirement specification as changes happen, but we don’t go around critizing waterfall because of that. &#8221;</p>
<p>Of course you do. Maybe not you personally but certainly the Scrum Agile crowd does. That is there drumbeat, the holy war. They pretend that &#8220;waterfall&#8221; can&#8217;t adapt to change and that&#8217;s why the world needs Scrum.</p>
<p>If it is fair to blame waterfall for overplanning, it is fair to blame scrum for overmeeting, underplanning, and micromanaging the dev team.</p>
<p>Most projects that I have seen fail do not fail because the team wasn&#8217;t committed or was wasting time. Most of the projects I see fail are due to not getting the market right, not enough budget, ineffective marketing, etc&#8230;. </p>
<p>Things which Scrum does NOT address, at least not at the dev team level, other than vaugely alluding to that these problems should be solved somehow&#8230;.</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How you manage to make that conclusion based on that article is beyond me.&quot;

I plan on blogging about that in depth in terms of my conclusions from that article, look for it on my blog.

&quot; I am merely saying that one group of people who may not thrive initially in a scrum team are people who are significantly below average in productivity, is not used to take responsibility and generally not pulling there equal weight.&quot;

And those people should have been weeded out prior to adopting Scrum. This should have been visible already. Hence one can and probably should assume that these people were weeded out, hence there is no need in Scrum to weed these people out.

Further, had these people been weeded out already, Scrum would not be necessary.


&quot;Congratulations, you just managed to use four of your own anti-patterns in one sentence!&quot;

Oh? Which four? I said &quot;Anyone&quot; not &quot;Everyone&quot;. I think the point has been made over and over that competent developers don&#039;t feel that Scrum is a benefit, you can scroll up to see that I think....

Jordan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How you manage to make that conclusion based on that article is beyond me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I plan on blogging about that in depth in terms of my conclusions from that article, look for it on my blog.</p>
<p>&#8221; I am merely saying that one group of people who may not thrive initially in a scrum team are people who are significantly below average in productivity, is not used to take responsibility and generally not pulling there equal weight.&#8221;</p>
<p>And those people should have been weeded out prior to adopting Scrum. This should have been visible already. Hence one can and probably should assume that these people were weeded out, hence there is no need in Scrum to weed these people out.</p>
<p>Further, had these people been weeded out already, Scrum would not be necessary.</p>
<p>&#8220;Congratulations, you just managed to use four of your own anti-patterns in one sentence!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh? Which four? I said &#8220;Anyone&#8221; not &#8220;Everyone&#8221;. I think the point has been made over and over that competent developers don&#8217;t feel that Scrum is a benefit, you can scroll up to see that I think&#8230;.</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
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